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What did we learn in the debate last night? For one thing we learned that John McCain is not an orator and Obama is. We learned that substance is not what we say but what we do. The American people have been fooled before by smooth orators many times; Jim Jones, Jim Baker, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite and so many more. We are accustomed to hearing about these things and they seem to roll off peoples back. Some are so ready for change that they care less about a candidates background. I’m sure the people who followed any of these so called leaders felt the same way. Senator Obama may be just the ticket for our society but I’m not about to take his word for it, I want to see facts about his background before he becomes my president. I would like to see his thesis from collage to see what his thoughts were back then, I would like to get a real understanding of his relationship with the domestic terrorist Ayres, I think we need to know his real feeling toward Reverend Wright and what his relationship with ACORN has been. There have been so many radical people in his background that have not been yet revealed by the major media sources and I feel we should get to the bottom of his relationships before jumping in on his bandwagon.

Who is John McCain? He’ a terrible Orator we know that but what are his true values? He is a war hero, has been a Senator for many years. Is known as a maverick in his party and has jumped party lines many times in the past to get his agenda through. He has built inter party relationships with several democratic senators and has joint authored many bills that have crossed party lines. He has been vetted by every media representative in the country and some overseas.

I know I will get a lot of flak for comparing Obama to the above characters but we don’t know anything about him. He was a neighborhood organizer for the Daley machine in Chicago and that could be a problem for him. He has associated himself with people like Tony Rezzco who is now in prison. His longtime friendship with William Ayres. These thing have a enough poison in them that they require real answers. I only ask the diehard followers to examine the facts as they are presented. You are not just messing with your country it’s mine too and I really don’t look forward to a socialistic America and that is how I feel we are headed.

And that’s my opinion,
Don
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4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 8, 2008 | 10:29 PM

Obama/Biden '08. That's the winning ticket.

McCain/Palin? That's the next joke to a bad riddle.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 8, 2008 | 10:41 PM

I agree with you, I dont believe anything Obama says, I looked up his record in Illinois and basically dont agree with 99 percent of the things he supports, and acorn is being investigated for illegal voter registration. I have friends in Illinois and they tell me he answers to the crooks in Chicago. We need voter ID with a picture on it, if you can get to the polls to vote you can get an ID. The democrats dont want it because they know it will be the end of voting people in cemetaries and such. Also this crap about early voting is another way for crooked voting. Every company, small or large will give you time to vote, more crooked doings. I guess the dems will want to allow voting in bars next, then bathrooms I guess you can tell by now, I have very little confidence in the dems, their main deal is to blame everything on Georgr Buch. They need to get a life and come up with something to run on!!!!!!!!!!!!

bushfan read my blog
Oct 8, 2008 | 10:43 PM

Sorry I misspelled Bush.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 2:53 PM

bushfan, why don't you believe Obama? I mean, what is it about him, which causes you to closesly question his judgement?

I mean, if you study the facts, most of every thing which Barack Obama has stated about John McCain have been proven to be true. Meaning, he's not pouring out a whole lot of false or deceptive and misleading statements. But some how and for some reason, John McCain and Sarah Palin have been doing nothing but making false statements? With that being said, can you seriously trust someone who is doing the actual lying or can you trust someone who's been telling you the truth, but you're not man enough to come to terms with the fact that this man isn't what you expected. And that's the real reason why you don't trust Barack Obama.

Hey, I'm not mad at you. And I don't blame you for you opinion. I, too, didn't start this thing by supporting Barack Obama. But you see, I'm one of those so-called "undecided" voters. I'm the one who actually listens to the campaign messages and then go and study what was stated. It is from there, that I will make my decision.

I've studied Barack Obama, from the A.C.O.R.N. controversy, to Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright and all of the other smoke screens that seem to link Obama as a bad person. I also study the way people react to these candidates. I look for truth, as well as how much emphasis and credibility are placed on the bias statements made. And it has always been my experience that the one who's barking the most junk is the one who can not be trusted.

During the primaries, senator Hillary Clinton called

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 2:53 PM

During the presidential campaign, John McCain says that Barack doesn't get it or is too naive to be president. To me, that's saying that this man is too dumb and reckless to be president of the United States. Excuse me? How can John McCain make such a suggestion, when he supported the policies of a dumb and reckless president for eight years? John McCain can not be trusted. He's barking too much.

Sarah Palin, is on the prowl, talking about about is friends with a terrorist. A so-called terrorist, mind you, that is a professor at a University. Is this chick really that stupid or on some of her teenaged daugther's drugs? Again, she's barking, which says to me that she can't be trusted.

Any time a candidate focus more of their time, energy and money on attack their opponent's campaign, instead of dealing with the real issues, they can not be trusted. The more they bark, the more lies they tell, the less likely I am going to support them. And this is why I'm the undecided voter who has decided to support Barack Obama. Don't play with me. I can change your election.

SusanBW read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 6:39 PM

God Bless you for common sense!I know who started all this slinging. I am not going to forget nor will others. (Unless they are in complete blind Partisan denial)Although I am a registered Democrat I have voted across party lines.There has been times when I just didn't feel right about the Democrat candidate. If this mess we are in today, doesn't convince voters that we need a TON of WASHING in Washing ton they are in full blown denial.I for one can't imagine a long long long time republican washing the old cronies out to start a fresh approach to our problems. After all, if McCain did that he would have to get rid of his self!! So if he gets elected let us bow our heads and pray he does just that. Oh shoot, I forgot that would mean we would end up with a hockey mom running the USA. Hummmmm Better yet, lets just elect Barack. Agreed?

KevinA read my blog view my photos
Oct 9, 2008 | 6:43 PM

He bucked his party on global warming but jumped on the drill baby drill. He tried to stop Bush on tax cuts with the Dem's and then flipped to rejoin his base. I am not saying that he is not bipartition but I do think that if he had not ran, he would not have changed his votes. He met and worked with Ayres just out of college. He was a kid. McCain worked with Keating as a senator. Bush did vet him 4 years ago with a nasty campaign. Now McCain has hired the same folks. Is that a character problem? I think both men are a better choice than Bush. It's policy for me.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 10:13 PM

hey $4.15 Most of the stuff he says about John McCain is a lie, John McCain was not proecuted for the Keating mess he didnt know what was going on and got caught in the middle. Obama does anything and says anything he can to get to the white house. Here is all the stuff we need that he has not produced. 1. Occidental College records Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available' He is a crook and empty shirt, why does he not produce this like other candidates?? You govt. employees always support the dems so dont tell me you are an independent.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 10:53 PM

Bushfan, what did Obama say, exactly, or his campaign, for that matter, about the Keating savings and loan scandal, that McCain didn't already mention in his book "Worth Fighting For"? He was not just caught up in the middle, he was part of the scandal. That's why he paid over 100k back to the treasury.

No, he was not prosecuted, but he was involved with some dealings, along with some other democratic senators.

And you say that Obama has not produced anything credible? Well, let me suggest that you go visit www.barackobama.com and find some facts.

Speaking of facts, also check out www.factcheck.org and really check up on the things that both candidates have stated.

Why do you need or would ask for Barack's baptism records? And as for his Harvard Law Review records, wasn't he the president of the review? Or are you trying to dismiss that?

You see, once you let go the bias and all of the hateful rhetoric, you just might find that Barack has no plans to hurt this country, but to make this country better. The only people who are actually hurting this country are the bigots and the hard hearten people who can not grasp the fact that a Black is that much closer to being the president of the United States.

Bushfan, you have called Obama a crook. Prove it. And when you do, if you do, check out the record of George W. Bush, his brother Neil Bush, John S, McCain, Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Don Riegle and of course Sarah Palin and her husband. All of these people are more crooked than the mafia. And that's a fact. Go check it out.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 9, 2008 | 11:26 PM

Let him produce the records and I might vote for him, he is hiding a lot, and so is his wife. Why would he do any good for this country if he doesn't like it. Oh and by the way just found out one of his ACORN cronies just registered the same man 72 times, no mention of this on the news. His words president of the law review, no one at the school can find these records. His words John McCain paid a fine do you know that for sure or just more hot air from him, even The rev Wright said he (Obama) would do or say anything to get elected, he is an empty shirt.
Going to bed, Hang in there $4.15

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 9:55 AM

$4.15 The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him. McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate. On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do. Also McCains wife Cindy lost somewhere between 3 and 4 hundred thousand dollars in the Lincoln savings and loan. You need to read the real version of the hearings, not the Obama website it is not accurate!

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 2:29 PM

Bushfan, you appear to be so cynical, that it's quite difficult to fathom the obvious truth in your suggestion. And let me tell you why I say this. I don't to sound offensive, but you have to remember I'm neither a democrat or a republican. I'm the one that's actually weighing the campaign and making a sound judgement. But this is why I say that you're being cynical, as well as other conservatives.

On one hand, the suggestions are that Barack Obama is a crook, a liar, a terrorist, naive, inexperienced, reckless and not fit or qualified to be president of the United States. Then on the other hand, the suggestions about Barack Obama is that no one knows anything about him or that no one knows the real "Barack Obama". Do you see what I see? On the level, may I scale it for you?

How can people say that they don't know much about Barack Obama and question his true character, but then turn right around and label him with all of these insults? By doing this, it makes you appear cynical.

The bible teaches us to not judge someone, unless we are proper to judge. In the court of law, it's called having clean hands. So when Barack Obama is called a terrorist, don't think that I'm not going to check out the facts on that. And once it has been revealed that those suggestions are false, I have to now pass judgement on those who created those lies. Because if you will lie to me about this or can not prove any or all of the other suggestions, what else will you lie to me about? And furthermore, why should I support your candidate, when they have condone these types o

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 2:29 PM

The bible teaches us to not judge someone, unless we are proper to judge. In the court of law, it's called having clean hands. So when Barack Obama is called a terrorist, don't think that I'm not going to check out the facts on that. And once it has been revealed that those suggestions are false, I have to now pass judgement on those who created those lies. Because if you will lie to me about this or can not prove any or all of the other suggestions, what else will you lie to me about? And furthermore, why should I support your candidate, when they have condone these types of behaviors?

When I stated, "don't play with me", I meant that. I can and will change your election. Because the republican and democratic bases are already set. It's the undecided voters who are going to determine this election. I have decided to fully support Barack Obama. Imagine if all of the other undecided voters feel the same way. YES WE CAN!!!!

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 2:42 PM

bushfan, McCain got off easy, but he was still involved. He's a decorated war hero and no one is going to let his legacy get stained like that.

McCain was involved in some shady deals. He was in real estate, so don't think that he's not a good salesman. But that's not the point.

Did Barack Obama's campaign ad falsly address McCain's past?

Sarah Palin had the nerve to suggest that Barack Obama is somehow involved with terrorists, because of his assoication with Bill Ayers. Bill Ayers, mind you, a professor at a university. When Bill Ayers was a known terrorist, Barack Obama was eight years old. Again, can I scale this for you?

On the level, what Sarah Palin has suggested is defaming to Barack Obama. Because she can't prove what she has openingly spoke about. So, once again, I have to pass judgement on the credibility of her character, since she is the one who made the comment. Guess where I'm going towards.

bushfan, you have asked for the records of Barack Obama. Who are you asking to get them for you? I mean, are you doing your own research or have you already settled in your position support the republican, regardless of who the candidates are? If that's the case, then follow your heart. No need to be divided of your own mind. But please do not falsly suggest something of another person, just because are of a different political party. How can you be trusted, if you're not truthful about what you say, but will question the truthfulness of others?

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 3:12 PM

$4.15 check this out, be sure and watch.
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY
IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED
ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO
RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING
THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all
know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE
STATES! HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE
THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A
NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 3:22 PM

$4.15 I believe you are a staunch democrat, good luck, your man is going down in the polls as I write this, more and more people are figuring him out. I looked at all the things you told me to, didn't change my mind at all. When I googled the Keating 5, I clicked on the first thing that came up and it was something that Obama put out, then looking further I noticed the other 4 besides McCain was all democrats, guess they sucked him into that with his good natured of trying to work with him. Thats

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 3:26 PM

Have to finish later $4.15 wify needs to use the phone and we cant get dsl out here in the country.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 10, 2008 | 4:18 PM

Are you actually comparing Barack Obama to "Jim Jones, Jim Baker, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite"? Seriously? See, you lost me right there. Because you're just wrong and nonsensical to even have the nerve to start out there.

Wow. Thank God McCain isn't reading your blog. He'd be proud and he'd probably bite your words and use them as his own.

That's a shameful comparison and an insult to Obama and his family.

Blessings...

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 10, 2008 | 4:34 PM

bushfan: You don't BELIEVE he was first black president of the Harvard Law Review????????? You don't thing Harvard would be SCREAMING by now if he WASN'T?????????

Just in case, check out this article from the NY Times from February 6, 1990, talking specifically about this designation and accomplishment:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC
1631F935A35751C0A966958260

Here's some text from that article: "The job is considered the highest student position at Harvard Law School.
The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school."

See, research is SIMPLE if you REALLY want to be in the know.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 10, 2008 | 4:35 PM

You should copy/paste the link, bushfan, if it's not too much for you.

And 4dollars15cents, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 4:49 PM

Bushfan, did you say "Fox" will be airing this? O.K. I'm sure that "Fox" will do a superb job at connecting Obama with Rev. Wright, as well as, going behind the what really goes on at their church.

Can't wait to watch and then study their findings.

You do realize that I'm going to study their findings, right? I mean, I'm not just going to take someone's editing job to be truthful, without doing my own investigation.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 4:54 PM

bushfan, I vote for the campaign that has the possibility of being right for the existing time. I don't vote democrat, simply because of the candidate is a democrat. And the same thing goes for republican. I have to actually sit and study the issues that are facing my life and those whom I'm giving power to govern those issues. And from my findings, I can honestly say that a vote for John S. McCain is a vote for failure.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 7:45 PM

faithtempo I dont believe the New York Times I listed 14 things that he has been requested to release, and he has refused, he could stop all the speculation if he just released these things and be an open book but he has the lid on all his records and from what I understand Harvard nor Columbia will release his records and Michelle's thesis was supposed to be sealed until after the election. Wonder what is in it I know they both hate America or they would not have sat in that church for and listened to that radical rev Wright and also been friends with him for all those years. But when it became inconvient for him he dumped the rev. If he wasn't running for president he would still be saying amen to his sermon. It is the KKK in reverse!!

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 7:58 PM

$4.15 I dont believe you have ever voted republican, Govt employees do not vote for republicans. They always vote democrat. I have a attorney that lives just down the road from me and has an Obama sign in his yard. He was on Jimmy Carters peanut brigade and never served in the military. His brother next door was a fighter pilot over vietnam and korea and he has a McCain/Palin sign in his yard and his sister just up the road has a McCain/Palin in her yard her husband also served in the military. The point I am making especially for faith tempo is some people serve their country and some people want their country to serve them.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 8:04 PM

Faithtempo, I did not compare Obama to those people you refered to, this is not my blog, I just write in it. This is donspoliticalblog, I guess you are one of the democrats that stays confused. If you will read his heading maybe he is comparing the to Obama, so what that is his right. McCain/Palin 09-10-11-12.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 8:04 PM

Faithtempo, I did not compare Obama to those people you refered to, this is not my blog, I just write in it. This is donspoliticalblog, I guess you are one of the democrats that stays confused. If you will read his heading maybe he is comparing the to Obama, so what that is his right. McCain/Palin 09-10-11-12.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 8:17 PM

I just went back and read your header Don, I appreciate faithtempo bringing it up and you are 100% right about slick talkers, they will lead people with low self esteem and unlearned people down the wrong path most of the time. I would like to know what the political affilation was of the people who Jones talked into drinking that poison. I guess it doesn't work on me, no one can sell me anything I don't want. Keep up the good work Don.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 10:31 PM

bushfan, in conservative fashion, you don't know your facts.

I voted many times with some republican candidates. In fact, I voted for Sonny Perdue, in the last governor's election. I didn't trust Mark Taylor or did I feel that he was able to take care of the business of Georgia.

However, during each and every presidential election, I have voted for the democratic candidate.

I voted for Clinton, twice. I voted for Al Gore. I voted for John Kerry.

The reason why I didn't vote for Bush, on either election, is because I felt that Bush was going to take us to war, which he did. And in 2004, I felt that Bush had messed up the invasion of Iraq and the only way for us to try to bring some kind of stability back to the U.S., we needed a candidate that would at least use some type of diplomacy in ending the war, instead of continuing the fail efforts which Bush had implemented. Eight years later, we are not better than we were before all of this mess started. And I seriously blame those who supported president Bush and his failed policies.

As for voting for senators and representatives, I've voted for both democrats and republican respectively. To me, it's always about the issues and never about popularity, gender, race or negative campaigns

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 10:37 PM

bushfan, when Fox presents their case against Obama, about his association with Rev. Wright and others; will they do the same for Sarah Palin?

I mean, from what I've gathered, most of the program is going to be about who Obama associates with, rather than focusing on who Obama is? To me, that's deceptive. It's trying to defame his character by saying that he's shady. But shady about what? So, let's put this on the scales again and weigh the facts.

Obama is associated with Rev. Wright, in some form or fashion. How does this effect our economy?

Obama is associated with Bill Ayers, in some form or fashion. What does this have to do with our failing healthcare system?

Obama has been called a liar. But nothing has been produced to prove that he's lying. Lying about what?

Obama has been called a crook. But he has never been prosecuted for any crimes? So, what is he guilty of?

Obama has been labeled an elitist. But in what way has Obama been a snob or arrogant about his political views, or the way he treats people?

Please, can I get some real answers to some real issues?

donspoliticalblogatl read my blog
Oct 10, 2008 | 11:22 PM

FT
No where did I compare Obama to those others, I simply stated that people have a tendency to blindly follow like they did with Jim Jones and David Koresh. Myself, I'd like to know more about Obama and I get no answers that I can trust. Words mean nothing it's deeds that count.
Don

bushfan read my blog
Oct 11, 2008 | 12:38 AM

$4.15 I know you will watch Sean Hannity on Fox and after you watch you will say, what has that got to do with anything. Yes he is going to expose Obama and all his crooked cohorts, probably expose Acorn for what it is. I heard the govt is trying to withhold the 50 millon of the 700 billion bailout that was put in there by the dems. Probably expose them for registering some guy 72 times. Picture ID all over the USA.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 11, 2008 | 7:08 PM

bushfan, A.C.O.R.N. did have some people who committed voter fraud, during their registration drive. However, how is Barack Obama tied to those activities? You're suggesting that Barack Obama is the mastermind behind the scandal or had knowledge of the wrong doings. The question is, can you prove that Barack Obama, himself, was involved in the A.C.O.R.N. scandal?

Barack Obama has been linked with Bill Ayers, a professor at the University of Illinois, who was an anti-war activist and deemed "terrorist", in the 1960's. But wait. Bill Ayers is a professor? That means that he's teaching students, mostly young republicans and democratic voters.

So, how can a known "terrorist" get a job as a professor at a University, in the United States? Something isn't right about this?

Is Barack Obama being linked to Bill Ayers, the professor or to Bill Ayers's past, as an anti-war activist? Shall we continue?

Barack Obama has been linked to Rev. Wright, who is a spirited pastor of a church, which Obama attended, who has also made some off color comments and racial suggestions from the pulpit. But what does this have to do with Barack Obama?

Well, a lot of people who disagree with Rev. Wright thinks that as Barack supports that church, then he's also supporting the teachings of Rev. Wright. But let's scale the truth, shall we?

There are people, right now, who support their church, regardless of the wrong doings of its pastor. For example, right here in Georgia, Earl Paulk is under a sex scandal. And I would bet you any amount of good money, that people support th

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 11, 2008 | 7:10 PM

And I would bet you any amount of good money, that people support the church, though they are weary of the investigation that surround their pastor. However, does it mean that even though they're still attending services, that they are in support of Earl Paulk's sex scandal? And I don't even want to start with all of the Catholic preachers, who have molestation cases against them.

Point being, Barack Obama is being targeted because of who he's been assoicated with, but no because of who he is, exactly. And all this means, in my opinion, that people care more about looks than about substance.

Some people don't like Barack because he's a Black man. Though they may say that race has nothing to do with it, it's the underlying truth, as well as the reason why Barack is being so scrutinized. The crowd at one of McCain rallies proved that. Calling the man a terrorist, a liar and talking about "kill him". What kind of a country is this, for people to have so much hatred towards another, just because of the color of their skin?

bushfan, you grew up in the 40's, 50's and the 60's. Did you ever think that you would see the day that a Black man become president of the United States? Or even would be considered for the position? Yet, when you look out your window and at some of your neighbors, all that you witness is their hatred and denial and all of the false accusations made about a candidate, who's only purpose is to make this country greater than is today.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 11, 2008 | 9:55 PM

$4.15 If Condelezza Rice was on the ticket I would vote for her, in fact I was hoping for her to be the VP. I believe she is honest, I am not voting for Obama because I believe he is a CROOK and LIAR and he will take us down the same old liberal path that Peanut Carter and Bill Clinton (draft dodger) did, weaken the milatary and raise taxes on everyone. Add more taxes to businesses and drive them out of this country like Clintax did. I told you the Obamas hate this country and what it stands for. Reinstate the draft and get $4.15 in the military, please President McCain.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 12:15 AM

bushfan, what makes you think that Barack Obama and his wife hates America? I mean, seriously. That's a huge suggestion to make, when you have no evidence to prove your claim.

You say that Barack Obama is going to raise taxes on everyone. Well, because of this bailout, either president has no other choice but to raise taxes. But let's focus on John McCain, for a minute.

John McCain has stated that he's going to give a five thousand dollar tax credit to people, so they can go out and purchase their own healthcare. Sounds like a good idea, but who does this really benefits?

Well, it benefits corporations more and the working class less. How so?

With a five thousand dollar tax credit, employers will be able to cut back on some of the benefits which is offered to employees. And with the benefits that are remaining, it will reflect mostly on sick days and paid vacation days, funeral leaves, 401k's and other small benefits. But as for your healthcare, such as dental, eyes and drugs, employees are left seeking out their own healthcare coverage. So, what's wrong with that?

What's wrong with that is the fact that healthcare isn't cheap. Don't believe me? Get sick and honestly think that five thousand dollars is going to cover your medical bills. You're better off using that money for your funeral arrangements. But let's back to Obama.

For you to call Obama a crook and a liar, but have no proof to back up your claim, really shows how backward many conservatives are thinking. And the fact that you would vote for Condi Rice, if she was on the ticket prov

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 12:19 AM

And the fact that you would vote for Condi Rice, if she was on the ticket prove this.

Condi Rice is a bigger front than Sarah Palin, though she does have more foreign experience and executive knowledge than Palin. But she's not the best candidate to succeed John McCain.

If the republicans really wanted to bring about change and ignite the base, John McCain should have picked Newt Gingrich or Colin Powell. These two are the best choice and probably the right fit. If that was the case, I'm sure that I would be a bit more interested in what the republican ticket has to offer. But since John McCain picked Sarah Palin, they have done nothing but fumbled their whole campaign. By creating all of these fear tactics, they are doing nothing but making the case for Obama. They are pretty much giving him the election. And do you want to know why?

Again, how can you question the truthfullness of someone, when you are not truthful yourself? How can Sarah Palin question the credibility of Barack Obama, when she has credibility issues also? You would think that she would do more in solidifying her character than trying to judge someone that she hasn't meet or even know about. And if she doesn't know about him, then why call the man a terrorist or even suggest that he's trying to harm america? What is it about a Black man, running for president, that makes White people so scared? I mean, really. Let's acknowledge that fear. Because until you are able to face those fears, the only person whom you should be scared of is you.

Again, nothing has been proven against

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 12:20 AM

Again, nothing has been proven against Barack Obama. A lot of things have been said and suggested and blown way out of proportion. But nothing, not even a thing, has been proven.

So, when I see this happening, I have to now pass judgement on those who have created false and deceptive judgement on others. You have beared a false witness against your neighbor. So, how can I support John McCain, when he's the who is presenting a false character? If this was not true, then why did have to calm down his supporters who unleashed their anguish against Obama, but spoke not a word about the serious issues this country face? They all wanted to talk about Obama, as if to say he's trying to hurt america. And to me, without any evidence or even probable cause to back up those claims, I see nothing but bigotry, intolerance, ignorance and a social vendetta against Barack Obama, simply because of his skin color. Because if Barack Obama was Jeffery Bohart, from Minnesota, saying the exact same things which Obama has campaign for, he would not be scrutinized as Obama has.

Who is Jeffery Bohart, you ask? That's exactly my point.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 12:37 AM

There's been a lot of talk about Bill Ayers and his association with Barack Obama. And of of this yada, yada has gotten to question the motives behind John McCain's campaign. I mean, I expected for things to get ugly, but definitely not stupid. So, let me just throw a question out there.

Bill Ayers, a former anti-war activist and known terrorist, is a professor at the University of Illnois. How does one go from being a terrorist to a professor?

I mean, if Bill Ayers is such a bad man, then why is he allowed to teach at a university? To me, that's like Osama Bin Laden coming to the U.S. to teach political science at Texas A&M. Who would allow such a thing? Doesn't make sense, does it?

Well, neither does trying assoicate Barack Obama with Bill Ayers's past. Because when Ayers was doing his terrorist attacks on america, Barack Obama was eight years old. Therefore, how can the two be connected to terrorism if there's nothing prove that they have cohearse plans to attack america? Attack us with what?

How cynical and desperate the republican party must be, that they would have to stoop so low, as to defame a man's character, just so that he can not achieve one of the highest position in the land. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. You create thess lies, just so you can deny how you truly feel about someone. Someone, mind you, that many of you continue to claim that you don't know much about, but you have so much to say about nothing. That's childish.

It doesn't take a rocket science to see the real reason behind many of your false and deceptive

shawnf read my blog view my photos
Oct 13, 2008 | 5:42 AM

well i belive race is the biggest issue here. afracin ameriacns are voting for obama and white people are voting for mccain. and bill ayer at that time was probaly just a normal person.

its nothing aginst mccain but he needs to stop the peronal attacks on obama. and more people are concernd about palin. "palin abused power" a quote by joe biden in oklahmoma.. even though im rooting for mccain,obama has the upper hand here. and as for the "putting lipstick on a pig" remark it was just plain rude.

the obama/biden campagins slogan "change,we need it" we do need to change the economy. but the mccian/palin campiagan "country first" we need to thinks of our countrys econmy.
here the rausmeen reoport

mccian:62%
obama:64%
and we neeed to figure out "who is going to help the economy most?"
well first,weve got a war vetern
and just some normal guy

and in an isider exclisive joe biden remarked "this will be easyer than running unoppsed" was very selfish.

the questin that will determine our president:
who wil help the economy most?

shawnf read my blog view my photos
Oct 13, 2008 | 5:55 AM

RE:There's been a lot of talk about Bill Ayers and his association with Barack Obama. And of of this yada, yada has gotten to question the motives behind John McCain's campaign. I mean, I expected for things to get ugly, but definitely not stupid. So, let me just throw a question out there.

Bill Ayers, a former anti-war activist and known terrorist, is a professor at the University of Illnois. How does one go from being a terrorist to a professor?

I mean, if Bill Ayers is such a bad man, then why is he allowed to teach at a university? To me, that's like Osama Bin Laden coming to the U.S. to teach political science at Texas A&M. Who would allow such a thing? Doesn't make sense, does it?

Well, neither does trying assoicate Barack Obama with Bill Ayers's past. Because when Ayers was doing his terrorist attacks on america, Barack Obama was eight years old. Therefore, how can the two be connected to terrorism if there's nothing prove that they have cohearse plans to attack america? Attack us with what?

How cynical and desperate the republican party must be, that they would have to stoop so low, as to defame a man's character, just so that he can not achieve one of the highest position in the land. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. You create thess lies, just so you can deny how you truly feel about someone. Someone, mind you, that many of you continue to claim that you don't know much about, but you have so much to say about nothing. That's childish.

It doesn't take a rocket science to see the real reason behind many of your false and deceptive

4dollars

shawnf read my blog view my photos
Oct 13, 2008 | 6:02 AM

4dollars15cents,bill ayers was 29 when barack was 13.and the rebulicans are only stateing the facts. the democracts are rich idiots looking to control something they already haven't.
and THE STUPIDEST thing not to do after counting the votes is a handshake. it only shows sportsman ship.
and if mccain wins i hope hes not an idiot like bill clinton.

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 4:31 PM

shawnf, what facts are the republican stating? They are questioning Obama's association with Bill Ayers, as if to suggest that Obama's is being foul for talking with a former anti-war activist. But in case you don't know, their suggestion is called "prejudice". In other words, they are prejudging a situation, without knowing the fact of it.

So, is it fair to say that the republican party is prejudice against Obama? One would think so.

Like I said, I have not seen any evidence to back up the claims which would suggest that Obama is a liar, a crook, a terrorist and all of the other prejudice statements. I would to see something concrete and not deceptive or what some people would call a white lie.

This country is better than this. But if people want to stay conservative with their bias views, then this country will not change. And that's really sad.

shawnf read my blog view my photos
Oct 13, 2008 | 5:23 PM

look,itas only my opoin,idiot i dont want to start a fight. oh ans i said bill clinton was an idiot i ment geogre bucsh.

im no prehudice. the rebulicans re and i understand. iv convinced me to vote for obama :)

bushfan read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 9:22 PM

shawnf and $4.15 I just heard a recording that was a radio station doing 3 different interviews in Harlim asking people who they were going to vote for, all three said Obama and they asked them if it was because he was pro life and wanted to continue the war in Iraq until we win, and they all said yes. Then they asked them if they had any problem with Sarah Palin being his vice president and everyone of them said they thought she would make a good vice president. That is what I call informed democrats, dont you?

4dollars15cents read my blog
Oct 13, 2008 | 10:43 PM

bushfan, you just can't let it go, can you?

Well, I'm not voting for Obama, because he's a democrat, black or any other reason, but the issues which he has addressed. For those same reasons, I'm not voting for McCain, simply because he's campaign has distance themselves away from the issues and choose to attack Obama. Which is their right. But at the end of the day, I'm left with nothing to look forward to.

A vote for McCain is a vote for failure.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 14, 2008 | 3:46 PM

Hey $4.15 take this survey, this is how I hope it goes in Nov.

www.afa.net/petitions/pbspoll/takesurvey.asp

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2008 | 8:35 PM

bushfan: Thanks for clearing that up. It's about the only thing you've been right about in this particular blog.

donspoliticalblog:

You said: "No where did I compare Obama to those others, I simply stated that people have a tendency to blindly follow like they did with Jim Jones and David Koresh."

I hate to get into a semantical argument but you leave me no choice. A simile is a comparison using the words "like" or "as" and you demonstrate a simile here when you say "like they did with Jim Jones and David Koresh." That means you ARE comparing Barack Obama to these people.

And as I stated before, it's an insult to the man and his family.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2008 | 8:44 PM

Ayers mug shot is dated August 27, 1968. Barack Obama was born August 4, 1961. The first incident by the Weather Underground Organization was an October 8, 1969 riot in Chicago.

Please, do the math. Obama was NOT a teen when they started their reign of terror and better, he was a small child. They're bombings occurred between 1971 and 1975, where Obama may have then grown to be a teen, but was still a child all the same. So please. Stop with the rhetoric people.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2008 | 8:45 PM

I meant "Their bombings..." not "They're bombings..."

shawnf read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2008 | 11:28 PM

well,when i was at work the radio stated tht joe biden said "with sarah palin as vice president nomine,it'll be easier that running alone!" that is arogance. we shoukdny have arrogant vps!
and in advance,sarah said that biden was an arrgant idiot.
it seems that all campains in the lasst week are attacking



i wish we had bill clinton as president. he was the best president ever!

bushfan i voted not sure on the survey questin.

obama isa terrorist. on a show called "the inside story" it said obama was a terrorist(although its not true)
but in the end,i hope everything turns out fine with no "voodoo death rituals"

goneforgood
Oct 14, 2008 | 11:43 PM

Hi Faith-hope all is well w/u; Here are a few things I'd like to point out relating to Ayers.
1) It has been Obama's contention
(for sometime) that Ayers was only an aqaintance & that he served on some boards w/him. Barack specifically said (numerous times)he was UNaware of Ayers past.
2) Last week(in a radio interview)Obama specifically stated he had seen no problem in working with Ayers because he thought he was
"rehabilitated"from his terrorist past!
Those are two contradictory statements- 1)he said he did'nt know,2)then he said he knew. That implies deception...why the lie/deception ?
Maybe it's this; Ayers recieved over $60,000 in federal grants for 'educational reform' programs & ACORN projects. Ayers picked Barack as a distributor of those funds. So it seems that further conflicts with Barack's 1st contention- that Ayers was only an aqaintance. Nobody funnels that kind of money to a mere aquaintance...
I think it's apparent Barack is covering for something- and I think this is what it is;
Ayers "educational reform" projects are associated with criticism of the American capitilist system and promotes the socialist philosophy. That is the reason Ayers recently traveled to Venezuela & recieved an award from Hugo Chavez for his 'socialist educational' endeavors (we are not talking about reading & math tutors here)! Coincidently, Rev Wright's recent focus on 'educational' programs (Trinity church)also emphasizes prosocialist principles and faults the American capitalist system as the source of Afro American "confusion"(his word-not mine). Also Wright contends t

goneforgood
Oct 14, 2008 | 11:57 PM

that American/capitalist culture is contrary to African culture. (As if I did'nt know all cultures are different but ours is evil).
So the problem seems to be that Barack has been associated with 2 radicals who are apparently anti American ! Usually that presents difficulties for a presidential candidate(motive for deception). Is it just that Barack likes to make contradictory statements for no apparent reason??(lawyers&cops don't like contradictions for obvious reasons). So,Faith, when you say "stop with the rhetoric people" am I supposed to, like the media, not ask any hard questions about Obama ?

goneforgood
Oct 15, 2008 | 2:15 AM

* correction for above post;
That was actually $60 million Ayers funneled thru Obama to Acorn(not thousands-which was my transscription error) and also those tax dollars went to the-
'educational reform'(socialist) programs.

*note-
The fact that Obama was a kid when Ayers & his wife were setting bombs off (and which they are still proud of to this very day) is a pointless contention and a typical politican nonanswer.

goneforgood
Oct 15, 2008 | 2:40 AM

Bill Ayers quote;

"I'm a radical leftist...a small 'c' communist...one of the last still willing to admit it...
the ethics of communism appeal to me."

goneforgood
Oct 15, 2008 | 11:21 AM

Guilt by association ???
'Pard me, it's inaccurate to use the word ;
"association" when referring to Barack & Bill Ayers & Rev.Wright. Obama has been activily, & knowingly i n v o l v e d with their radical agendas.

An innocent association is a better discription of McCain when he is routinely smeared w/the Keating 5 charge(proven to be baseless-long ago). "Guilt by association" is a consistant democrat smear stratedgy thats been applied to almost every republican over the past 8 years.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2008 | 3:30 PM

@ goneforgood: SO WHAT if he said he was unaware of Ayers past? The point is that to try and affiliate HIM with that past is ridiculous. Sometimes semantics are good. I don't think this is one of them.

FaithTempo read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2008 | 3:33 PM

And Barack Obama has denounced Ayers' terrorist activities and attitude long ago. Of course, that probably doesn't count.

As for Wright, I think that's actually an arguable point. If you read a previous blog I wrote about this very subject, you'd know I don't think there's any excuse to be made for Wright. The link to Wright is valid. It's a 20 year link. The link to Ayers is just looney.

goneforgood
Oct 15, 2008 | 4:56 PM

Faith;
The main point is the $60 Million Barack was empowered with from Ayers that was used to teach kids about how socialism/communism is great & capitalism is bad. (Communism is the discredited system not capitalism). The other point is Barack's support & involment with Acorn as a recipent of some of that $60million.
(Acorn is another involvment he is currently seeking to distance himself from-how many is that now?Any room left under the bus?).
As of today, there are,now, 15 states that have launched investigations into ACORN related voter fraud cases...keep in mind that tax $$ are going to support this dubious organization. Voter registration is good if it's nonpartisan but ACORN only focuses on signingup democrats. This has led to serious questions about the accuracy of poll results, as well, because many polls take into account the number of registered party voters! (as if the biased media coverage is'nt enough). It would seem our voting system has alot in common with 3rd world countries. Many voters feel as if cheating has become the order of the day...especially the McCain supporters(poping up around the country this week) who have found fraudulent charges on their credit card accounts for the Obama campaign! These issues have relevance to the present. The FBI are not prone to launching investigations into "looney" accusations.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 15, 2008 | 6:14 PM

goneforgood, another thing Obama's campaign has donated $900,000 to acorn, I found a place today while blogging that this one 19 year old admitted to registering 72 times, he told them he was alread registered but they said, no problem you can register as many times as you want and he filled ou 71 cards. One girl was registered, and she was only nine. This early voting is probably crooked as a snake. The dems may have this election so rigged that McCain will be beaten by 10 or 15 percent. I say no picture ID, no vote.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 15, 2008 | 6:24 PM

faithtempo,goneforgood,$4.15 I heard an interview from a radio station, they went to Harlem and Interviewed 3 different people and each one was for Obama, when the interviewer asked 2 of them if they were for Obama because he was for winning the war or because Sara Palin was his VP and they said both. The other on was asked if it was because he was against stem cell research and winning the war and he also said both and when asked about Sara Palin as VP, he said he thought she would make a good VP. The interview was longer than this but I shortened it because of space. I wonder why they are voting for Obama but I hope the VP they picked wins.

bushfan read my blog
Oct 15, 2008 | 6:45 PM

Think before you vote for Barack Obama.
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or Secret service he would be disqualified because of his assosiation with a known terrorist, William Ayers. He would be disqualified to be his own bodyguard for the same reason and he supposedly leading the race for the most powerful nation on earth.