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I'd hate to ruin this report with facts because they can really get in the way of what is being sold here but in case anyone wants to know the truth...
Most fox pens are several hundred acres in size with some close to 2,000 acres. A fox or a coyote has lots of room to get away from the hounds and they do sprint to safety in artifical structures that are placed in the pens to protect them. Foxhunters in these pens have no desire to kill the game animals. We love to hear the hounds chase the fox until he decides to run for cover. When one fox runs to safety, the hounds look for another one to chase. Not only is the practice fair and ethical, it is more progressive than most other types of hunting as there is no intent to harm.
There are no secrets to hide among honest foxhunters. Anyone is welcome to join in the chase if they think they might like it. I must warn you though, if you are looking for a bloody dog fight, you won't find it with us. The most offensive thing you will come across is the strong brewed coffee being sipped by the fire.

Mr Travis,
You have no idea what foxhunting about, its heritage of our for-fathers enjoyed, its about fellowship we say a prayer before each hunt(something you probably never do), we give thousands of dollars to groups such as American Cancer Society, The Shriners, Boys and Girls Club of America, Joseph Home for Boys, Jerrys Kids and numerous local charities. What you have is a digruntled former employee and she is trying to make something personal that has a bigger following than she can imagine.

I agree, The media almost always puts a spin on things, and this is just another case of that. There are actually many foxes in the pens, and the pens are huge as above mentioned. The fox is not harmed, and in many cases the fox will play tricks on the dogs and they lose the trail! There is nothing unethical about fox pens, and I would appreciate you pulling this article or at least making it less misleading.
Thanks

What a biased slant of your words prior to even airing your report. All for the sake of a STORY! Why don't you take the time to reserach all the good things that also happen as a result of foxhunters coming together to help others in need? Guess that would not make "good airtime"! Ask a young lady in Virginia that was paralyzed as a result of an accident what she and her family think of us "foxhunters"! They were & still are appreciative of the thousands of dollars raised to help her and the family with untold medical expenses! Ask the family in Florida that lost their "children in an auto accident"; about the foxhunters that came together to aid them in a dire time of need!
Ask the many folks in Alabama that receive financial suport from an annual field trial that is held to benefit others! Ask the man in North Carolina that lost his job, medical benefits; and then had a stroke; about those "foxhunters" that came to his aid in such a time of need! These are just some examples of the GOOD" that results from us "foxhunters"...you don't seem to care about that!
Ask those that receive the economic benefit of the millions of dollars we pour into the economy about us "foxhunters"!
The primary goal is to have the hound "chase" the fox not "catch" it! There are casualties in any sport; football, basketball, boxing, wrestling, etc. All of these require stamina, skill, cunning, and endurance. And even though we don't like for it to happen; the weaker species sometimes does not survive. The same as with mother natures "checks & balances" in the wild!
Spend your valuble time help

"cash and secrecy"

cash-unfortunately nothing in life is free. There are entryfees involved. Which pays for judges gas, trophies, etc.

secrecy-not sure where your going with this Mr. Travis. Its hard to hide a dogbox on the back of a pickup. Foxchases are open to anyone.

Mr Travis
I dont know if you have kids but think of it like this. I have fox hunted for years, same as all of my family. I was introduced to this sport by my grandfather, in the same way that i introduced to my kids. It has been in my family for generations. I hunt know in the pens to keep people from fussing about my dogs running across there land ect. Now yall are trying to take that away from us. I would rather have my kids growing up around fox pens with good hunters in a good family oriented sport than on the streets doing drugs and drinking!! The game in the pens are being taken care of better there than in the wild anyway. In there they do not have to hunt for food, they have a buffet supplied for them anyway. They do have plenty of places to hide to get away from the dogs, if they chose to do so. When they are in the wild they are problems to cattle farmers, crop farmers, they get shot and killed, run over by cars, they kill house hold pets ect. the list goes on and on. By airing this THE WAY YOU PUT IT you will be trying to kill a good family sport that has been around for generations and generations. I really hope that you would reconsider.

Mr. Travis,
Please feel free to come with me to a field trial any time you like. I am positive you will not see these horrible things you are describing. Instead you will see fun and fellowship. You may like it enought that you buy your own pack of foxhounds.

Thanks Randy Travis for bringing this report to the light. From all the response you got so far it is amazing how so many people can think that dog fighting is wrong but to hell with the other animals. When it comes to America double standards and ignorance run freely. How can you condone one form of abuse just because your forefathers did it but yet condone a black man for killing petey the pit-bull... The response to Michael Vick was over the edge but by looking at the response to your blog-ignorance still has a place here in America…


Education or not common sense and sensitivity towards all life should be the standard. But I guess people will justify their wrong with some meaningless family ritual…. My goodness how vague and immature

Thanks for all the comments so far. Our series begins tonight at 6 and 10. We have a second part Tuesday at 6 and 10.

As many of you know, law enforcement authorities in eight states plus the federal government recently wrapped up their two-year investigation into fox pens and illegal smuggling of game for those pens. We plan to discuss that in Tuesday's installment.

Our story tonight deals with a couple of big size pens: a 400-acre pen in Alabama and an 1800-acre pen in Georgia.

Since we're a Georgia TV station, we tried to get the owner of the Georgia pen to talk to us on camera and let us videotape inside his pen. He said no to both.

If any of you are from Georgia, I make the same request.

Randy
My grandmother always told me the TRUTH HURTS!
When you expose evils dirt, you can best believe you will be hated for your action. But don't worry about the non-thinkers do what you do best -expose the dirt that they try to hide and condone. Your report is not damaging its truth and the truth hurts the ones that live in the dark...

No matter how many response you get you will have the haters constantly trying to condone their behavior... But one thing that I have learned in life-when you judge a man for his wrong you better make sure you glass house is shattered free...

Thanks again Randy...

I'm not condoning what a select few pens done was not right in that investigation but don't put us all under one group. Just because Micheal Vick a dog fighter doesn't make all black men dog fighters. I will be glad to talk to you anytime just e-mail me. Like I said earlier you got your info from the pen owners estranged wife which is trying to get back at him so she will say anything that will cause harm to him. Foxhunters as a whole are some of the most care-giving people around if some is in need they go out of their way to raise money for their cause. Mr Travis please give both sides of your story...

Maybe your not such of a OUTDOORSMAN. You probably sit in your tree stand over bait and shoot your trophy deer. Its just a matter of time before all of outdoor sports such as quail hunting, rabbit hunting, fishing will be one their outlaw list...

I personally have attended numerous hunts over the years. I have personally saved game that I thought was about to be caught, usually the game is smarter than the hounds and when the game tires it goes in holes, up trees, into colverts, or pipes placed in these pens so the fox and coyotes can escape the hounds. The Game is well kept and feed good food and also vaccinated to remove parasites. Most pen owners follow the laws for there states closely and are 100% legal. Most established associations make annual donations to there state wildlife department of natural resorces. Most hunters give numeros times a year to all kinds of needy folks from childrens homes to churchs, all the time, I would like this reported.

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Artificial structures – Certainly, fox pens must provide adequate escape shelter as required by Law in most States that allow such disgraceful pursuits. In the interest of the facts, Gentlemen, please be sure to share with the readers how fox pen operators will close off or restrict access to these escape shelters so that the foxes and coyotes can not escape; remembering that they are also fenced in to prevent escape, thereby extending the chase. Or, what about how fox operators lop off the tails so the dogs can’t catch the coyotes by the tail, thereby extending the chase. After being run to exhaustion, the foxes and coyotes are caught by the pack of dogs and killed by being torn to pieces.

Purpose of the fence – The purpose has nothing to do with keeping foxes and dogs from being hit by cars. These operations aren’t located adjacent to major interstates and highways. They are located, like chicken fighting rings, down dirt roads in isolated rural areas. C’mon boys, stop lying to yourselves and trying to pull the wool over the public’s eyes! The public is smarter than you think. The purpose of the fence is solely to restrict the movement and escape of foxes and coyotes (especially after escape cover has been blocked off) to prolong the chase, resulting in exhaustion and the inhumane death of the fox or coyote as the pack of dogs rip them to pieces.

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And the money – Sure, all the good you do. Heck even if the Satan saves a life, it doesn’t change the fact that he is still Satan and inherently evil. Is that good only paid for through the reported income or does it include the unreported cash as well! Reports indicate that some operators are raking in over $200,000 in unreported cash. DO you guys report the income from the gambling that occurs at these “chases”? Of course, how can report income from an illegal activity? Wonder if there are some RICO charges for the feds to look into with these fox pen operators. Maybe Mr. Travis’ investigation and reporting will alert the IRS to you good ole boys and your redneck games.

“Honest foxhunters” – Well, here it is – a Freudian indicator of subconsciously acknowledging there is a problem with fox pens. In this case, it must be the 99% of fox pen operators and customers that are giving the 1% a bad name. So, we can all agree that there are some serious problems that need to be addressed because even the fox pen operators admit that there are DISHONEST fox pen operators. So, why haven’t the honest fox pen operators (if they actually exist) stepped in to clean up their sport until now? Let’s guess, maybe it is because they all operate inhumanely and often illegally and promote a bloodsport, but now that the truth will be exposed a few, like these on this blog, have seen fit to capitalize on this opportunity and create a fictitious division between good and evil fox pen operators so they can distance themselves, as honest, and survive the will of the el

I have seen 300+ hounds cast at one time and even seen them break other hounds legs and knock them out of the race from the start of the cast. That is wanting to be the first to kill and you all know it.RIGHT?

But what that AR will not admit to is that the free range fox lives an extremely hard life with most fox dying before they are 18 months old. A lot of pen foxes learn to dive in the hole in 15 minutes or less, and live to a ripe old age eating dog food. That beats eating grasshoppers in the summer and road kill and garbage in the winter.

It is unfortunate that you have chosen to ruin a very important pastime for so many good people and without learning enough about it to present an honest picture.

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Finally, please rethink your logic regarding the stocking of the pens. What is the average life span of a fox or coyote? I'd say about 4 years would make a ripe old critter in the wild. Think about the age of the animals when they are placed in the pens. I'd say between 1 and 4 years old at the time of entry. Now, use your logic to figure out how long the average fox or coyote has left in his natural born life. A large percentage of the game that goes in a pen will be dead after one year because the term of its natural life will have passed. JL, things die in this world. I don't like it, but I understand it. GOD has intended it and you can not stop his will.

So all of ya'll people care about a little fox, but could CARE LESS about all the babies that are being ABORDED every year, THAT'S MILLIONS of babies.

I think we should all be more worried about the babies being killed than 10 foxes a year.

First off, i would like to say we own a fox pen and you are totally wrong if you think that the fox/coyotes have it bad. Our pen is over 500 acres. We limit our hounds to 40 per nite. We have one coyote we know of, because she has distinctive features that enables us to tell her apart from the rest, that has been in our pen for over 5 years now. She is still alive. She is still running. She knows how to take the hounds on a trip that none of you would believe. She can leave them in a heartbeat if she wants, or she can run them for an hour... but then she can "lose them." She will run them by the hunters as she is putting on her show. She can stop in middle of a pack, turn around and the pack keeps running and she walks away. As far as just "turning them loose" then turning the hounds on them, when we turn our fox/coyotes loose, we let them get use to the area for two weeks before we let any hounds in. They know the area, they know the hiding places. We don't just turn loose the fox then turn loose the dozens of hounds, as you made the statement. As far as making loads of money, no we don't. There is far too much involved in upkeep of the fence, the feed which we feed over 250 lbs a week for the coyotes/fox, and medications/injections, road care, barrels everything else to tend to the pen. There is no money made. The field trials that have been held at our pen have mostly been benefit field trials. We have paid bills for many people due to leukemia, cancer, loss of loved ones. We have paid funeral home bills for people that have died unexpectedly. This all

Revolutionry your wrong. There is nothing violent and ruthless about Honest fox hunting. I'm sure there are some that procede with illegal fox hunting, but that's with anything in this world like illegally deer, rabbit, duck hunting and etc. The fox and coyotes do have artificial structures that are available in several areas of the pen. Get it right!!

My family is honest and we are good people. My father introuced me to this sport when I was a very young teen and it is nothing but a honest, clean, and fair sport.

I would like to ask everyone that is "knocking" our sport. Do you eat beef? Do you eat pork? Do you eat chicken? Do you eat fish? Do you eat lamb? Do you eat deer? Do you eat eggs? Do you drink milk? If you do... how can you say harming innocent animals is wrong then? If this person, who taped this video was an honest foxhunter... he/she wouldn't have been standing their videotaping. He/she would have been stopping the baying. That's what we do. We stop them IF it happens. The one doing the videotaping is the WRONG one. The judges/pen owners/hunters stop the baying before anything can happen if at all possible.

jl brutus

Ahh...Now the REAL TRUTH is beginning to come to the surface!! There was a BITTER DIVORCE between a foxpen owner and his wife in the state of Georgia! A lot of "he said", "she said", and in the end...between the two of them...it was all about the MONEY!! Who's gonna get the better of whom! So it appears in her hatred for him she is doing all she can to ruin him and try to ruin and take away from all of us that choose to enjoy foxhnunting! It now appears that Mr Travis has become her mouthpiece and is doing all the dirty work for her!! Hey...congratulations "fox news"...you once again succeed in unbalanced reporting of the REAL TRUTH!! Maybe next you should investigate "Desperate Housewives"!!

Another_foxhunter: If we were to consider your comments my question to you is this: Why is Vick sitting in jail now? Tell me the difference in your sport and his? Is it limited violence? I'm confused on the doubled standard here in America along with the ignorant and brain dead people that surface the earth with rules that makes no sense...Please enlighten me... Is there a chemistry between the two sports? One sport is right as long as the sport is a family ritual- but if not condemn you to hell and especially if you are in the limelight.. Talk about doubled standards-behind the scene is not against the law is that correct?

FACT - FACT - FACT

Mrs. Henderson is going through a divorse

Mrs. Henderson is/was the wife of the co-owner

Mrs. Henderson said she was ordered to put obstructions in the way of the foxdens. Which stops there escape.

Mrs. Henderson admitted she did it, she is not an employee. She is the wife of the co-owner, which makes her the co-owner.

Why did she do it? she is in the wrong, if her husband did it, he is too. But she admitted she did it.

Guilty with a confession if you ask me.

MuchHatredinEssence. I changed your name because apparently you have alot of hatred... for alot of people including the president. I hope the secret service is watching this also.. so they can investigage you. There is a lot of difference in the sport of foxhunting, listening to the music the hounds make. God put those FOXHOUNDS on earth for a reason. To chase fox. To make the music that they make. Look it up in the encyclopedia!!! Look up the definition of American Foxhound. See what it tells you. Dog fighting is pitting a dog against a dog. A dog is NOT a nusiance animal. A coyote and fox is. Look that up in your state trapping laws. It states NUISANCE ANIMALS. Do your research before you start condeming!!!

10-4 foxhunter she just wishes she had something to do but set at home and play with her self

What we have here is a group of educated liberals that want to put a stop to an American heritage passed down from our forefathers.It makes me want to puke at how todays media will take such a story as this and twist it around to make hunting seem vicious and illegal.I have never fox hunted in my life.I am an avid coon hunter(racoon for you city folk).Just as the fox hunter I enjoy listening to the race that a pack of hounds can make as they pursue the game.I could not imagine not being able to take part in a sport that I dearly love.95% of coon, rabbit, fox,and deer hunters I know practice fair chase methods of hunting,and yes their are 5% that give our sport a black eye.But please do your homework and also show both sides of an issue instead of just one just to get a story.Case in point... Budweiser beer always shows the beautiful girls,the good times and the great times to be had with using their product.Why dont they show the other side of the coin and show the alcoholic that has lost everything,the parents burying a child because of a drunk driver etc.etc. They should. Mr. Travis you should do the same and report about the ethical hunters as well.I guess that wouldn't make you a GOOD STORY as it seems todays society would rather feed off of the bad news and not the good things that still go on in this world.

To the bloggers who feel like we didn't show the good side of fox hunting: we asked repeatedly for an interview from the co-owner of our state's largest pen. He repeatedly turned us down. He also declined to let us videotape what happens during a field trial.

We honestly wanted to witness for ourselves, although we realized that our presence might impact what we would actually see.

Again, I continue to make the offer to any other Georgia pen owners. We truly want to see what you have and interview you about the heritage you talk so much about.

So far the silence is deafening.

As for Mamie Henderson's motivation, our job is to investigate whether a whistleblower's allegations are substantiated by other testimony or evidence... then to make sure we disclose the motivation if we do a story.

In her case, both of those were done.

MuchHatredinEssence... What we are doing is NOT illegal. In our state it is perfectly legal, so we will NOT be going to jail. YOU on the other hand.... with your comments about the president, MIGHT BE. Are you sure you are even from this country? Like I said... do some research before you start comdeming. Mr. Travis needs to do some research also. Siding on the side of a bitter wife, looking for extra bucks is definitely NOT the way to go.

AND when SHE posted, she did NOT post under the name Henderson. She posted under the name of MOODY.

Once again TRUTH HURTS! Epecially when one has something to hide. Again I make no apologies for my statement and I back down from no one.. When truth prevails-it makes me happy to see justice come full circle to expose all the wrong that goes on in this world...As far as my freedom of speech- the President is a liar... Shall I retract my words/the truth-I should say NOT! And if I were face to face with him the words would not stumble from my lips...Are my comments truth about the President...I shall say that they are more balance than the average scale.....Again truth hurts the one who lives in the dark...

Yes Mr. Travis... give us the list of all the licensed fox pens in Georgia that you contacted that would not let you in. Please.

your a retard

all this for a dollar

Hey Randy of Fox5 I hate it when you guys and gals get on T.V. "twist and tell the public only what you want them to hear". Why don't you tell the damage foxes and coyotes do to livestock and poultry farmers??????????????? Oh sorry that is too much like right!!!!!!!!!! Where is the footage from Georgia all this was taped in Alabama correct? So how can you report on something that did not happen on GEORGIA RED CLAY. Secondly the lady you were interviewing is on a revenge so how can you get in the middle of something like this she is bitter. GET ALL YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU AIR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. For the record Im not a fox nor coyote hunter but an avid outdoorsman.

Of course this pen owner would not let them go in because it is evidence in a divorce. I don't beleive that Mr. Travis let any of the other pen owners (if he contacted any others at all) know that he was doing a report on the abuse of the sport, because if he did I feel positive that they would have welcomed him in so he could report how well organized, maintained, and no abuse,to dogs or foxes. Those fox hunters love their dogs and would never harm them. The pen owners are even attached to their foxes. They feed them, vaccinate them and tend to them just as pets. No one would have harm come to either animal.

You say you continually make the offer to other pen owners, how? Do you think they are reading this crap? Do your job and contact them personally.

Heritage what are you talking about. Hound hunting is a heritage in an outdoor enviroment. In an area surrounded by an electric fence, just no the case??? I am an avid lifetime hunter its hard to stand with you guys on this one!!!

nocaffeine:

Please go back and carefully read what I just wrote earlier. The offer is out there because some of you believe there's another side of the story.

We feel like we told tonight's story completely, at least as completely as we could with the owner of the fox pen refusing to talk on camera or allow us access.

If some feel otherwise, and they've got a Georgia pen, give me a call.

Mr. Travis,
I have the opportunity to be a part of a fox pen in our great state, and can tell you that the last thing any of us want to do is to harm any of the fox or cayotes in our pens. We take great care of both our fox, and our hounds that we enjoy running and hunting with. We are blessed to still have the opportunity to enjoy foxhuting and it is a shame that those who have never had a part in it can just judge it in a report that makes it seem evil.
I don't know what your video will show, but please consider that the video could very well be set up by those who want to paint a grim picture of foxhunting. There are careful steps you take to prepare both the fox and the hounds for hunting to insure their safety during the chase, and there are many places of refuge for the fox and cayotes to go into in case there is a need for them to.
The fox and cayotes are well fed and also dewormed and receive medicine when needed through their food.
Our pens are not to endanger the fox and cayotes, but to insure the safety of both the fox and the hounds due to highway danger and other safety reasons.
The foxpens are inspected by the stste regularly to make sure they are in good shape and the fox and cayotes are being taken proper care of. If they were cruel or unfair in any way you can believe the proper people would take appropriate measures to make sure the pens were safe for the animals both being chased and giving chase.
Foxhunting is under enough attack by those that have not had the opportunity to grow up around the thing that some of us love so much, so pleas

Mr. Travis,
I have the opportunity to be a part of a fox pen in our great state, and can tell you that the last thing any of us want to do is to harm any of the fox or cayotes in our pens. We take great care of both our fox, and our hounds that we enjoy running and hunting with. We are blessed to still have the opportunity to enjoy foxhuting and it is a shame that those who have never had a part in it can just judge it in a report that makes it seem evil.
I don't know what your video will show, but please consider that the video could very well be set up by those who want to paint a grim picture of foxhunting. There are careful steps you take to prepare both the fox and the hounds for hunting to insure their safety during the chase, and there are many places of refuge for the fox and cayotes to go into in case there is a need for them to.
The fox and cayotes are well fed and also dewormed and receive medicine when needed through their food.
Our pens are not to endanger the fox and cayotes, but to insure the safety of both the fox and the hounds due to highway danger and other safety reasons.
The foxpens are inspected by the stste regularly to make sure they are in good shape and the fox and cayotes are being taken proper care of. If they were cruel or unfair in any way you can believe the proper people would take appropriate measures to make sure the pens were safe for the animals both being chased and giving chase.
Foxhunting is under enough attack by those that have not had the opportunity to grow up around the thing that some of us love so much, so pleas

Again, my point is you say my offer is out there!. Unless they are reading this they don't know about your offer! I didn't hear you make the offer on your report, and even then they would have had to be watching your report! It looks to me that it is your job to have contacted them, (before you reported).

Hunting with dogs is the best thing has ever happen to this world. I hope who ever dont like hunting with dog runs over a deer or fox everyday. I got something yall reporters need to report on one of my hunting dogs got shot and killed this weekend by a person who dont like dog hunting. But thats ok because if i find the person that did it im going to put him in the ground. Thats a PROMISE!!

Mr Travis...another question. you were investigating a fox pen in Georgia...then why did you show a video from a fox pen in alabama? not a true picture of the georgia foxpen! Another "biased" slant on reporting!!
And if you TRULY wanted the "other side of the story" why not get off your duff...get out of the office and find a fox pen owner that will let you inside his pen? But since you aired this "gibberish"...it gives no reason for them to believe that you'd ever publish the "other side" of this sport!!
Yes I have hounds 14 of them....and they get better care taken of them than most peoples house pets. Regular innoculations, examinations by my vet, fed the very best feed that I can buy! They kennels are cleaned & water changed twice daily! they are given vitamins, just as would any athelete! These hounds are like a marathon runner and it takes top notch care and conditioning for them to compete. They Are Not given steroids, or other illegal drugs! My wife loves these hounds as much as she loves me!!
And as for Ms Henderson/Moody or whatever she calls herself...her information about B-12 is not correct either! B-12 is used to increase red blood cells which causes more oxygen to be carried through the blood stream. And if too much were given then yes...the excess will appear to make the urine a darker more reddish color, but does not harm the dog unless used in doses that are extremely high and for long periods of time! Even marathoners and other human atheletes use B-12!! and it is often prescribed by medical doctors for humans! wow...imagine that....Another "biased" sl

Mr. Travis. Your story makes it sound like this is some "secret" thing. Then why was their articles in our local newspaper about foxhunting, what we do, and what we have done supporting families in need? We had IN PRINT stories of what foxhunting is... where the hunt was going to be and what the hunt was for.... IN PRINT... IN A NEWSPAPER, for the last five years. How can you say that is a secret then??? We even have the Modern Woodsmen of America supporting our hunts, our field trials because we help people in need.

Mr. Travis,

I anxiously awaited your report after seeing the previews all weekend. I, unlike yourself, grew up around foxhunting all my life. I couldn't wait for the annual hunts each year, so I could go with my Dad hunting. My Dad has taken better care of his prized dogs then most people take care of their children. I have also attended hunts at the United Fox Pen and have never once seen what you aired on television. I have; however, seen my Dad jump into a pile of dogs to save a fox and coyote only to doctor him later because he was bitten. The pens have many dens for the foxes or coyotes to go in. I have also seen the fellowship that takes place among foxhunters. I have never seen a tight knit group of avid hunters who truly care about each other and their animals. I have great memories of growing up around foxhunting and my children have great memories of going foxhunting. They too saw your report and was shocked at what they saw. Isn't it amazing that children can see through yellow journalism? Oh, one of their pictures (fuzzed out) happenend to be on your television. Did I give you permission for that? So, when my son wants to go hunting with his Grandfather this Friday night, I will not think twice about letting him load up the hounds and take off hunting. I do hope a pen owner will take you hunting soon, so you can see the real truth.

We fox hunters would like you to make the distinction between fox hunting and hunting foxes in pens. Big Difference!!

I'm not even bothering to read that garbage . What little I read totally is ridiculous and to think theres people that will believe it because they don't know any better.

Please! where did you get these lies? The fox in pens have a much better life than in their natural habitat! They get fed ( chickens, dogfood , left over human food!), dewormed, and live longer. Night foxhunters love the sounds of their precious hounds chasing the fox.Thats what their sport it all about.Why do you think they have safety dens all over the place?Just to block them from going down into them? Haha I think not.